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Your resume services guide

Well not exactly what you say. Off course, resume shouldn't be the only indicator but it speaks about a candidate in his/her absence. The HR people do a background check before hiring. Came across this nice article, http://info.shine.com/Career-Advice-Articles/Resume-Preparation/Is-your-CV-a-lie/1215/cid25.aspx

Alec Satin - Making Project Management Better

Hi Bert,

Insightful comments. As someone in a job search right now, I've seen an almost complete split between the meetings and connections I'm having with people through social media/blog connections and those through traditional resume + applications.

The meetings, interviews and conversations with the social media connections are as a rule more personal, meaningful and "real".

Those through old-style resume and application quite often feel rigid. Sometimes I feel as if the other person is trying to "trip me up". More often it just feels as if we're in the modern day equivalent of a Victorian era tea party trying to read between the lines. It's a lot of work.

Here's to the day when we all have business cards like this one: http://picocool.com/design/google-me-business-card/

With best wishes,
Alec

Jessica Boxer

I think that this is very dependent on the industry that you work in. Your particular industry, teaching, is very different than the one I work in, computer programming. In my industry, resumes are absolutely crucial to understand what the person claims to be. Of course, people lie on their resume, but what it does is makes a claim of what a person's expertise. That has to be tested for sure, but the claim is a precursor.

Interestingly, in my industry there is an opposite situation. Generally speaking references are completely useless. Most software firms will only say "he worked for us from x to y." and will tell you no more. Oftentimes, previous employers don't even exist anymore, and if they do, the people who worked with the candidate have moved on. (Average longevity for programmers in small firms is two to three years.)

Also, in the teaching industry, like many unionized, government jobs, you have the situation where a hiring mistake is quite difficult to remedy. In my industry, people change jobs often, and consequently, cutting someone who doesn't work out is not all that big a deal (for the employer or the employee.) Especially so if you work in an at will state.

(One other thing - criminal background checks are very hard to perform in my industry -- programmers are very resistant to that kind of intrusive action. Of course your employees work with kids, and such checks are probably necessary, and likely legally required, so again, the industry is different.)

Bert

Your resume services guide: Your application can stand in your place just as well. I'm not saying it's dead, I'm asking about it in light of negligent hiring lawsuits and more hiring accountablility. In my conversations with others who do the hiring in my profession, a resume is just an indicator of interest and nothing more. I realize there is an entire industry that has developed around the resume and how to improve it. Perhaps I stepped on some toes??

Bert

Alec -

It's a shame, but in reality, we are trying to trip you up. Since its our backsides on the line, we don't want anything to come back and bite us. So, we dig deep. The involved process that my district goes through is designed to find any flaw. It is preached to us that it is better to not fill a position than to fill it with a marginal employee. The bar is set extremely high. In fact, getting the job in the first place is only the first hurdle. The second comes in the form of acquisition of tenure after four years of employment. Before we allow an average employee to acquire tenure, PEP (the Principals' Executive Program) encourages administrators to thank them and let them go in order to continue looking for our next superstar.

Bert

Jessica--

Agreed! Views of the resume are industry specific. That's why I said it was a good idea to seek out each company's or industry's opinion of them. I'm simply asking if they are dead, now that more tools are available.

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